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Posted on: November 30, 2010 7:26 pm
Edited on: November 30, 2010 7:32 pm
 

Self: Big East was set to take Kansas, others

Posted by Adam Jacobi

At the height of conference realignment talks last year, there was real concern that Texas (and most of the other Big XII South schools) would flee the conference for -- pardon the pun -- greener pastures, leaving the schools up north wondering what their next move would be. Six conference members doth not a viable conference make, after all, and there was real concern that schools like Iowa State or Kansas State would have to suffer the indignity of joining a non-AQ conference.

Fortunately, as Kansas basketball coach Bill Self told listeners on his weekly radio show yesterday, his Jayhawks' AQ status was never in doubt -- and nor was that of Missouri, KSU, and ISU. When asked about TCU and its move to the Big East, Self said that if the Big 12 folded, those schools would have been offered a spot in the Big East. And further, Self thinks the Big East was smart to make those offers, because it was the only way to ensure the Big Ten doesn't kill the Big East's football program.

Audio, courtesy of the IMG Jayhawk Network, is below. Those interested in the full show may listen through Jayhawks All-Access ($$).

If you can't listen, here's the full text of Self's statement, with minor alterations for clarity's sake:

To be honest with you, Kansas could have been making the same announcement today that TCU made. And Kansas State could have been in there too, because the feeling that we got -- or we had, when the conference realignment was going on, that if by chance, Texas would have gone to the Pac-10 and we would have stayed buddies with Kansas State and not separated and done all that stuff, then the Big East would have came and gotten us, and KSU, and Iowa State, and Missouri. Which, in theory, you say, 'Oh god, the Big East, bad travel.' They would have gone to divisions, so we would have had divisions with probably the teams that are close, and maybe Louisville and Cincinnati or whatever.

And I think that's smart on the Big East's part, because the Big Ten's still going to go poach somebody, and when they poach somebody it's going to be a football-playing school, and if that number goes beneath eight, then I believe -- I could be wrong -- but I believe then they're not eligible for the BCS bid. So they're covering themselves to make sure that whenever the Big Ten does whatever they do, they'll still have enough football-playing schools to make sure that they keep their BCS football bid alive. So I think it's a smart move, and probably great for TCU, so I see no problems with it.

Although there had been rumors to this extent back in the spring and summer, this is the first time that a school official has not only addressed the rumor that the Big East was set to invite the wayward Big 12 North schools, but out-and-out confirmed it. And as Self mentioned, with the Big Ten purportedly sniffing around for expansion targets out east, the Big East needed to either go into buyer mode or prepare to get out of the business of football altogether. While some college football fans might have preferred the latter, the Big East would have lost an automatic qualifier bid and all the money it entails, so that was never really going to happen.

And above all else, this should at least reassure fans of those four schools that even if the Big 12 had folded, the day that ISU or Missouri would have had to share a conference with Wyoming or Middle Tennessee State was never really going to happen; there had always been another BCS conference waiting, and there probably still will be if this latest iteration of the Big 12 doesn't work over the next few years. The arms race probably isn't over yet.



Posted on: November 29, 2010 10:08 am
Edited on: November 29, 2010 10:18 am
 

Report: TCU accepts offer from Big East

Posted by Chip Patterson

After another release of the BCS standings moved us one step closer to an Oregon-Auburn national championship, TCU reportedly sealed the deal to make the jump to a BCS conference.  Brett McMurphy of AOL Fanhouse is reporting Monday that TCU has accepted an invitation to become an all-sports member of the Big East Conference.

TCU will join the league on July 1, 2012, and begin conference play in their new conference for the 2012-2013 school year.

For the Big East, the move comes just in time.  The current four-year evaluation period for the BCS ends in December 2011. While the Big East has not produced the contenders to warrant their AQ status in recent years, TCU's arrival will strengthen their prominence on paper significantly.  When the BCS heads get to crunching numbers, the Big East will get to report TCU's accomplishments (including their three Top 11 BCS finishes) along with the rest of the conference.  

For TCU, it is a perennial chance to arrive unaided in a BCS Bowl.  Not only does the Big East control an automatic bid to the Fiesta Bowl, but playing a full conference schedule against BCS AQ opponents should create a boost in the Horned Frogs' strength of schedule.  Many will argue that the current state of the Big East would not provide much of a boost, but the Horned Frogs will take their chances now with an automatic bid.  TCU also gets a huge boost by getting to add their other sports to an already massive conference in the Olympic sports.  While no one is expecting TCU to make an immediate play for the Big East basketball title, but playing in a league that garners so much more national attention will help raise the status of all of the Horned Frogs' sports teams.  

Posted on: September 30, 2010 10:48 am
Edited on: September 30, 2010 4:08 pm
 

Report: Big East, TCU have met, discussed move

Posted by Chip Patterson

Two days after our own Dennis Dodd passed along the reports that the Big East was targeting TCU for membership, and a day after athletic director Chris Del Conte issued an ambiguous "no comment" on the issue, it is being reported that the two sides have met and discussed a possible move that would bring the Horned Frogs to the Big East.

Del Conte has been unavailable for comment to the media while away on business in New York and Philadelphia, but the Dallas Morning News is reporting that discussions have already taken place, even within the last month.

TCU has met with Big East officials within the past 30 days to discuss the logistics of a move by TCU in either the 2011 or 2012 seasons, according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

Del Conte, TCU's sports information department said, was in Philadelphia for meetings about Mountain West Conference television contracts with MWC commissioner Craig Thompson.

One source said Villanova, which was invited to join the Big East in football several weeks ago but has yet to decide if it's interested, is potentially a modifying factor regarding TCU joining the conference. It's unclear whether a move by Villanova, which currently plays in the Football Championship Subdivision, to the Football Bowl Subdivision (previously known as Division I) Big East, would enhance or detract from TCU's possible inclusion. Villanova already competes in the Big East in other sports, including the 16-team basketball conference and the 12-team baseball conference.

TCU joined the Mountain West Conference back in 2005, and would be anxious to make another move with the departure of Utah and arrival of Boise State after this season.  The Mountain West was excited to get the Broncos with hope of getting AQ status, but those discussions have faded. Now, the Horned Frogs best option may be to revitalize a conference that many feel are on the verge of losing their AQ status.

The Big East has openly admitted to constantly evaluating options for expansion and new television deals.  Bringing in TCU would open up Big East football to a whole new market, and likely would bring with it a more lucrative television deal.  

Aside from the obvious geographical concerns, there are also identity issues that could be caused by adding a Texas school to the Big East.  Though after adding DePaul and Marquette to the conference for basketball, it is clear the Big East has no problems reaching out to the Midwest.  Several alternative conference names have been suggested, and we here at the College Football Blog are open to more.  Drop your new conference name suggestions in the comments below, or tweet them to us @CBSSportsNCAAF.

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