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Posted on: February 13, 2012 2:59 pm
Edited on: February 13, 2012 3:46 pm
 

MWC and C-USA forming new conference

Posted by Tom Fornelli



CBSSports.com's Brett McMurphy reported on Monday that both the Mountain West Conference and Conference USA would be dissolving to form a new conference starting in the 2013 school season.
The new league – which is yet to be named – is expected to consist of Southern Miss, Marshall, East Carolina, UAB, Tulsa, Rice, UTEP and Tulane from C-USA and Wyoming, Air Force, Colorado State, UNLV, New Mexico, Fresno State, Nevada and Hawaii from the MWC. Hawaii would be a football-only member, making a 15-team all-sports conference and a 16-team football conference.

Temple also is a possibility as the school was contacted by Conference USA, sources told CBSSports.com, when the Big East last week opted to invited Memphis instead of Temple.
It's a move that has been discussed and speculated for a while now, ever since the conference landscape began shifting so abrubtly last year. Now, however, it's official.

And you can't have an official conference without an official conference name, and as McMurphy pointed out in his story, the conference doesn't have one yet. Which means that its time to make your voice heard in two ways:

1. By heading over to the Eye On College Football page on Facebook and voting for your choice in our poll

2. By leaving the name you've come up with that we should have had in that poll in the comment section of this post. We'll use the best suggestions in another post tomorrow.

Though we can't guarantee that they'll listen to us, by working together, we can do our best to make sure this new conference has the name it deserves ... or at least, a nickname it deserves.

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Posted on: January 10, 2012 1:43 am
Edited on: January 10, 2012 10:44 am
 

No split title, Alabama No. 1 in AP Poll



Posted by Tom Fornelli

If you had been wondering whether or not the AP Poll would recognize Alabama as this year's national champion or make a statement by keeping LSU ranked at No. 1, well, the answer is right up there for you. 

Alabama is on top with LSU right behind them with Oklahoma State, Oregon and Arkansas rounding out the top five.

Also, what's really interesting about the poll aside from Alabama being on top is that Alabama got every first place vote but five. Of those five ballots that didn't put Alabama at the top, only one listed LSU. The other four had Oklahoma State.

The one voter who kept LSU at the top spot was Erik Gee, from KNML in Albuquerque, N.M.. Gee told CBSSports.com's Dennis Dodd in December that it would take "like a 63-0 pasting" by Alabama for the 39-year old radio host to change his vote after the BCS National Championship Game. He believes LSU won the right to the top spot with their performance prior to Monday's 21-0 loss to Alabama, and his final AP Poll vote reflected his firm stance on the issue.

Check out the final AP Poll of the 2011 season below:

1. Alabama (55)
2. LSU (1)
3. Oklahoma State (4)
4. Oregon
5. Arkansas
6. USC
7. Stanford
8. Boise State
9. South Carolina
10. Wisconsin
11. Michigan State
12. Michigan
13. Baylor
14. TCU
15. Kansas State
16. Oklahoma
17. West Virginia
18. Houston
19. Georgia
20. Southern Miss
21. Virginia Tech
22. Clemson
23. Florida State
24. Nebraska
25. Cincinnati


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Posted on: November 28, 2011 12:28 pm
Edited on: November 30, 2011 11:30 am
 

So who is the real number two?



Posted by Tom Fornelli


There's an inherent flaw in the way we determine the champion in college football. When you let human beings decide which teams are the best, you allow our emotions and opinions to become involved in the process. Making matters worse, we're all pretty stubborn when it comes to how we think and feel about a certain subject.

I knew a kid in college who would only drink Mr. Pibb and refused to drink Dr. Pepper. They're the same thing. The only difference between the two is that Dr. Pepper has more student loans to pay off and has a real good time beneath underpasses. When I'd ask my friend why he insisted on drinking Mr. Pibb over Dr. Pepper he said that Mr. Pibb just tasted better.

Which is a lie, because they taste the same, but in his mind Mr. Pibb was better. He had that preconcieved notion, possibly from having it in the house as a child, and there was nothing that could happen to convince him otherwise.

It's a lot like how we view college football teams. There's a group of people who feel that Alabama is the second-best team in the country, and no matter what arguments you make on another team's behalf, that opinion's not changing. There are groups of people that feel the exact same way about Oklahoma State, Stanford, or Virginia Tech. No matter what you say to them, they're already convinced that one of these teams is the team that deserves to face LSU for a BCS title, and you won't change their mind.

Which got me to thinking around 2am on Saturday night/Sunday morning. What if there was a way to present a team's case without a person knowing who that team was? If I remove the names of the schools, I'm removing the bias. All a fan can see is "Team X" not Alabama, not Oklahoma State, not Conference USA, none of that. Just the letter "X" and some numbers.

So I decided to take a look at six different schools and compare them in five separate categories to get a better idea of who the better team really is. I'd like to share this data with all of you and then have you vote on which team you think is the team that should be playing LSU based on the numbers you see. There is no right answer, there is no wrong answer. It's still opinion, but what I've done is I've stripped any possible biases you may already have.

Here's the chart.



Now here's an explanation of the chart.

Top 20 W - This is the number of wins each team has against a team currently ranked in the top 20 of the Sagarin rankings, which are used as part of the BCS formula. Though I used Sagarin's overall rankings, not the rankings he has to use for BCS which removes point differential.

Top 40 W - This is the number of wins each team has against a team currently ranked in the top 40 of the Sagarin rankings.

Opp. Win % - Exactly what it looks like, the combined winning percentage of every FBS team each team has played. It's important to note that I did not count the games against that particular team. So for example, Team E's opponents had a .479 winning percentage in game not against Team E.

Av. Point Diff. - This is the average point differential in each team's games against FBS opponents. In other words, how many points are you winning your games by on average.

Av. Sagarin Rank - This is the average Sagarin ranking of the FBS opponents each team has played in 2011. The lower this number, the better.

So, now that you have all the info, which team is the one that should be playing LSU? Vote below, and once you vote the teams will be revealed.



So who did you vote for?

Find out here.


Posted on: September 26, 2011 3:04 pm
Edited on: September 26, 2011 3:38 pm
 

Pac-12 poll reactions, Week 4

Posted by Bryan Fischer

This week's polls have been released. Here's how the Pac-12 fared, from the top of the polls to its bottom, and what it means.

(AP/Coaches)

6/5. Stanford

The Cardinal were off this past weekend as they rest up for Pac-12 play and figure out how to replace starting linebacker Shayne Skov, who was lost for the season. Stanford appears to ease into conference play with a home game against UCLA before Colorado comes into Palo Alto. Despite the bye, they actually leapfrogged Boise State in Coaches Poll, which is pretty interesting/bad voting on the coaches' part.

12/14. Oregon

Nothing like a late-night blow out vs. Arizona to bump the Ducks up in the polls (some losses to teams ahead of them helped too). LaMichael James' school-record breaking rushing performance will likely help Oregon get more positive attention nationally as well. They moved up four spots in the AP Poll and three in the Coaches'.

25/NR. Arizona State

Dennis Erickson's squad is back in the AP top 25 after dropping out briefly following their loss to Illinois. A thumping of USC to give the Sun Devils their first win over the Trojans since 1999 will tend to do that. The coaches are not as thrilled with their play as voters are, keeping them behind Houston and Ohio State in the "Others receiving votes" category. They'll play lowly Oregon State at home this week, so they should rise with another win and several teams in front of them losing.

Others receiving votes: Utah (12 points in the AP poll/11 Coaches), Washington (4 AP/3 Coaches), USC (2 AP)


Posted on: September 19, 2011 7:04 pm
 

ACC poll reactions, Week 3

Posted by Chip Patterson

The new polls were released on Sunday, and the ACC was able to capitalize on an impressive non-conference performance by adding to their poll presence. Florida State fell from the top ten after their primetime loss to Oklahoma, but big wins for Clemson and Georgia Tech paid off in national rankings.

Florida State (AP: 11/Coaches: 14) - The Seminoles certainly had a chance to jump into national-title contender status, but the home loss to the top-ranked Sooners has dropped FSU from current consideration. Virginia Tech (AP: 13/Coaches: 11) - The Hokies jumped out to a big lead early on Arkansas State, and cruised in the second half to a 26-7 win. Virginia Tech's string of non-ranked opponents will continue this week, with a trip west to face Marshall. Once conference play starts, the Hokies will begin to face opponents that could raise their stock in the polls or reveal a team unworthy of their ranking. How the voters perceive the currently undefeated Hokies could change after hosting Clemson, Miami, and a road trip to a revived Wake Forest team.

Clemson (AP: 21/Coaches: 22) - The Tigers hit their stride at just the right time with their upset over Auburn in Death Valley. The game was a coming of age for sophomore quarterback Tajh Boyd and an arrival party for star wide receiver Sammy Watkins. Clemson's celebration will be short-lived, as head coach Dabo Swinney prepares the Tigers for a crucial Atlantic Division showdown with Florida State on Saturday.

Georgia Tech (AP: 25/Coaches: 24) - Those who have doubted Georgia Tech's offense bit their tongues on Saturday when the Yellow Jackets piled up 604 rushing yards against Kansas. The 12.1 yards per carry was an NCAA record (minimum 50 carries) and the defense is starting to look comfortable year two under coordinator Al Groh. The Yellow Jackets are happy to break through, and will get their chance to prove themselves against North Carolina on Saturday.

North Carolina (AP: None/Coaches: 25) - The poll status of Everett Withers' squad is a bit of a head-scratcher. The Tar Heels just make the cut for the Top 25 in the USA Today poll of coaches. But the Associated Press voters do not show anywhere close to the same proportion of love for North Carolina, with the Tar Heels receiving just a handful of points. My only guess is that Butch Davis is a well-respected member of many coaching circles, and the Tar Heels could be getting extra credit from coaches while the presence of an interim is getting them less from the press. Either way, we'll have a much better idea of how North Carolina stacks up after facing No. 25 Georgia Tech in Atlanta on Saturday.

Other Receiving Votes - Miami is the top non-ranked vote getter after knocking off Ohio State at home. Maryland, a week after being on the cusp of national ranking, fell to the bottom of the "other receiving votes" pile after falling to West Virginia on Saturday.

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Posted on: September 12, 2011 4:06 pm
Edited on: September 12, 2011 4:23 pm
 

The Poll Attacks: Week 2

Posted by Bryan Fischer

The latest college football polls are out and now it's time to rip them to shreds. Senior college basketball writer Gary Parrish has been calling out voters in the major hoops polls for thinking a little bit too far outside of the box when it comes to their AP ballots every week.

With the football season starting, I thought I'd steal take the baton on the idea from my colleague and keep all of the writers across the country who vote honest. I've come to know a good number of these people through time and twitter but relationships do not matter, bad votes do.

AP Poll           Coaches Poll

(Details of AP ballots courtesy of PollSpeak.com)

Poll reactions: ACC, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12, SEC

Rodney Dangerfield "No respect" team of the week: Baylor

Really coaches? Again? I threw your sports information directors under the bus last week for having Baylor behind a TCU team they beat. Imagine my surprise to see this for the second consecutive week. I know you all believe in Gary Patterson. I do too. But they settled it on the field and he lost. Robert Griffin III will give your defensive coordinator the willies. The only thing I can think of is you're not big fans of schools that threaten others with lawsuits.

Overrated: Nebraska

Both polls have the Cornhuskers sitting in the top 10, behind 9th-ranked Texas A&M and ahead of 11th-ranked South Carolina. Perhaps it's our place to point out that the Taylor Martinez completed just 50% of his passes against Chattanooga in the opener. Or that it was a one point game entering the 4th quarter against Fresno State. But go ahead and rank them fifth Ira Schoffel. Sixth isn't much better Tom Murphy. Things won't get much better if they beat Washington either I'm guessing but at least we'll have a better idea of how good this team is.

California Craziness

A trio of voters from California (CSN Bay Area/CBSSports.com's Ray Ratto, San Jose Mercury News' Jon Wilner, LA Daily News' Scott Wolf) are an interesting voting block. Some would call them progressive, others would call them extreme and just about everybody else will call them crazy given their fluctuations in their ballots each week. All three are consistently in Pollspeak's group of "extreme voters" so we'll highlight the most baffling decision(s) out of each.

Wilner was in this space last week but even though his ballot was utterly ridiculous again (Texas 14th? Almost as bad as Virginia Tech 23rd or Arkansas 25th), we'll move on to Mr. Ratto. I know he watches a lot of Pac-12 games out in San Francisco so why, then, do you have Oregon 23rd and Washington 14th? Are the Huskies' narrow victories over FCS Eastern Washington and Hawaii make them deserving of being ranked ahead of Baylor? Is losing to your number one ranked team - LSU - the reason for the Ducks being behind Texas? Or 12 spots behind USF? Did you see the Trojans eek out a victory for the second straight week? You certainly were not watching Arizona State beat Missouri. And I'm positive you didn't read Brett McMurphy's column saying Arkansas is talented enough to win the SEC because you fail to include the Razorbacks on your ballot. Craziness indeed.

What were you thinking? USF

Mike Hlas of the Cedar Rapids Gazette was in this spot last week for ranking USF fifth despite Notre Dame doubling their yardage and winning by three. So guess what? USF sits fifth once again. They're in the Big East. They beat an 0-2 Irish team by three. They might be good at the end of the year but in no way are they the fifth best team in the country. Wisconsin, Stanford, Florida State and all of the other teams you have behind them are better and it's not even close. I'm sorry, over-rating Notre Dame and then over-rating a team that beat them should get you kicked off the voting roster.

Come on man

Last week, I put my colleague over at SI.com, Andy Staples, in this space for ranking Boise State way too low at No. 13 in his ballot following their win against Georgia. Andy owned up to his mistake and apologized to Bronco Nation (and thus, me) for having them too far down. His week three ballot has the Blue turfers seventh between Florida State and Texas A&M. While Staples' polling has come around, he also gave me some good advice: I'm too nice.

Well, sorry Chadd Cripe of the Idaho Statesman. You're now in the crosshairs thinks to Staples' advice.

I know you're a bit isolated up in Idaho but there has to be television with satellite somewhere in the state, right? You have Florida State as a borderline top 15 team (#13), UCF in the top 20 (highest out of anyone) along with Mississippi State two spots ahead of them. Oregon's still in the top 10 at No. seven and both Auburn and Ohio State are top 20 teams despite each narrowly escaping competition that usually plays on Thursday's.

Hlas' ballot is so terrible he gets an additional mention in this spot. USF, fifth. Seriously?

Also, the AP itself gets a mention for their mistake this week, which you can read more about here.


Posted on: September 11, 2011 10:12 pm
 

Pac-12 poll reactions, Week 2

Posted by Bryan Fischer

This week's polls have been released. Here's how the Pac-12 fared, from the top of the polls to its bottom, and what it means.

(AP/Coaches)

6/6. Stanford

The Cardinal traveled east to play Duke in week two and while they didn't start out particularly sharp, they finished as you would expect and rolled to a 44-14 victory. The team hasn't really played a marquee game yet but they're led by one of the preeminent players in the country in Andrew Luck so they're still on the national radar. They picked up points in both polls and should figure to move up with a late night win against Arizona this weekend since either Oklahoma or Florida State figure to slide down after the two meet in Tallahassee.

12/14. Oregon

Nevada seemed to be the perfect cure for the Ducks' Texas hangover. The defense was swarming and the offense looked like they were back in top gear. Darron Thomas was sharp and efficient but the star of the game was freshman athlete De'Anthony Thomas, who racked up 204 all-purpose yards and two touchdowns. Oregon is behind a host of undefeated teams and will make a slow climb back into the top 10 as they keep winning big and others start losing games as the season progresses. They're better than their ranking indicates but it will take a while for them move up.

22/18. Arizona State

Dennis Erickson's squad is back in the top 25 after a three-year absence thanks to a big overtime win against Missouri in front of a national television audience. It's a little concerning that they allowed the Tigers to come back in the 4th quarter but the offense looked much better than many people thought. They'll be back in the spotlight again this week with a game against Illinois before starting conference play against USC.

Others receiving votes: USC (68 points in the AP poll), Washington (12 AP, 7 Coaches), Cal (6 Coaches)


Posted on: August 4, 2011 1:27 pm
Edited on: August 4, 2011 1:58 pm
 

Preseason Coaches Poll Reactions: Big Ten

Posted by Adam Jacobi

The preseason USA Today Coaches Poll came out Thursday, and as usual, several Big Ten teams are involved. Here are the conference's represented programs:

10. Wisconsin

11. Nebraska

16. Ohio State

17. Michigan State

25. Penn State

ALSO RECEIVING VOTES

30. Iowa (41 votes)

31. Northwestern (30 votes)

33. Michigan (19 votes)

Few quick notes:

There's been a pretty clear consensus that Wisconsin and Nebraska are the top teams in their respective divisions, so it's not much of a shocker to see both teams lead the conference pack. If anything, it'd be nice to see both ranked higher; would you really take Texas A&M and Oklahoma State over Nebraska and Wisconsin this year?

If Michigan State wins at Notre Dame and Ohio State fends off Miami (both pretty big ifs, to be sure), the MSU-OSU clash on October 1 could be a Top Ten affair. It'll also be the final Buckeyes' final game without their four suspended stars, which probably means more to the team than what its ranking's going to be. Either way, someone's coming out of that game with a ton of momentum for the rest of the Big Ten schedule. If that winning team is Ohio State, Wisconsin should start getting nervous.

Penn State hosts Alabama in Week 2. Suffice it to say, the Nittany Lions are either dropping out of the poll or rocketing up the ranks very quickly.

The balance of power in college football ebbs and flows pretty sharply, but this business with five of the six Legends Division members getting preseason votes seems like more the rule than an anomaly -- especially if Pat Fitzgerald sticks around at Northwestern. If Jerry Kill gets the Gophers' act together too, that division might turn into the toughest top-to-bottom in all of college football.
 
 
 
 
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