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Oregon complying with NCAA request

Posted on: March 5, 2011 2:09 pm
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Posted by Tom Fornelli

Following a report on Thursday that Oregon had paid nearly $30,000 to two different scouting services, including $25,000 to Will Lyles, the NCAA requested documents from the school related to the services acquired. On Friday evening, the school released a statement saying it would compy with the NCAA's request.
The University of Oregon contacted the Pacific-10 Conference Friday morning regarding scouting services that specialize in the identification of potential student-athletes, according to the Ducks' Director of Athletics Rob Mullens Friday.
As a result, the athletics department has been asked by the NCAA to provide documents related to the purchase of services provided by scouting agencies contracted by the school's football program.
Mullens said the athletics department first called the Pac-10 office Friday morning and the NCAA contacted the University's compliance office to request the documents later that same day.
"We have been asked to provide a series of documents by the NCAA and intend to fully cooperate," Mullens said. "I reiterate that it is our belief that the purchase of such services is within the allowable NCAA guidelines."
Of course, what the NCAA is interested in is the purpose of the money the school paid Lyles, not the practice of using recruiting services. Schools use them all the time to help find talent that may have slipped beneath the radar, but the NCAA is more interested in the role Lyles may have played in bringing running back Lache Seastrunk to Oregon.

Lyles has a mentoring relationship with Seastrunk, and he was also tied to LaMichael James. Two running backs from the state of Texas who ended up going to Oregon.
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Since: Nov 18, 2009
Posted on: March 9, 2011 9:21 am
 

Oregon complying with NCAA request

Look at the purchase order. Everyone is making a big deal out of $25,000. The reason the price was so high was because that scouting service provided information on kids from 22 states. Not one kid!! read it! It is a matter of public record. You can see right on the PO which states the Ducks received info on. Go Ducks!!!!!!!!!!!




Since: Feb 7, 2011
Posted on: March 9, 2011 12:05 am
 

Oregon complying with NCAA request

If they did pay haloti why did he leave early than . I always say youre innocent until proven guilty . Mullins admitted they used the services so how is there cheating or guilt since there has been no findings of illegalality . I would bet the farm on it that seastrunk came to Oregon on his own and the scumbag lyles profitted from it So lets wait until there are illegal findings before we judge or act out of line .



Since: Sep 26, 2008
Posted on: March 8, 2011 10:41 pm
 

Oregon complying with NCAA request

I think while this story does seem to have some merit on both sides of the argument. Something is amiss with the whole 25K and reasons behind why it was so much. i am not going to comment on the validity of who done what and convict anyone just yet. IF I was on the Oregon side I would grow some thicker skin for a time and not take all this posturing so much to heart. We as fans tend to convict first, ask questions later. i am not here to bury you just yet though. In the end the NCAA will find somthing to throw at you if they feel it warrants some concern on their behalf. look at what happened to Bama over text books and USC for not knowing somthing the NCAA says they should have known. In the end its going to be the NCAA that will make a judgement call and you will have to live with it. Its there ball and you have to play by their rules or dont play.



Since: Dec 29, 2006
Posted on: March 8, 2011 7:04 pm
 

Oregon complying with NCAA request

uofo_ducks.  I don't know enough about recruiting svcs, as to how they are made up and function. Let's say you pay $40,000 to XYZ and they send Joe Smoh and his brother out to look at several players you are interested in. Joe and his brother  scout, maybe talks to the individual players some, mostly their coaches and sends back a dossier on 5 to 10 players. Now let's say you pay Joe Doe $25,000 to scout one particular player that you know he is very close to. Joe Doe is the whole organization. Chief cook and bottle washer. Also, ya see this player just isn't any possible recruit. This is big-time ***** p;ayer. Why didn't you just go scout him yourself? Why ask Joe Doe to do it and pay out all that bread? I think this is the reason this particular story has legs. It just doesn't wash as your average scouting service event.



Since: Apr 29, 2010
Posted on: March 8, 2011 5:09 pm
 

Oregon complying with NCAA request

Reality Duck fan is that neither the NCAA, Pac 12 nor Tv execs want you to be marquee league program. TV ratings fall nationally big time with U of O there. Don't take it personally, just the way it is. They want LA, Bay area or Seattle markets for that. You are getting the political one two here for the first time and IF you make it through this it will happen in short order again with something else. They will absolutely throw the book at you on this one if they can. Welcome to the top (although you've won nothing so far). 



Since: Sep 21, 2009
Posted on: March 7, 2011 5:07 pm
 

Oregon complying with NCAA request

well oregon state paid 40,000 dollars to recruiting services, pretty much every school pays money so sounds like nothing to me....



Since: Oct 12, 2010
Posted on: March 7, 2011 9:51 am
 

Oregon complying with NCAA request

The assumption is that Lyles is charging Oregon for his services, but not charging LSU for his services.  Or is that the LSU coaches dropped the dime to avoid getting looked at themselves.



Since: Oct 12, 2010
Posted on: March 7, 2011 12:19 am
 

Oregon complying with NCAA request

Lyles works with LSU all the time.  Did I miss the probe or am I comparing apples to oranges.  Each case is different.



Since: Dec 29, 2006
Posted on: March 6, 2011 6:08 pm
 

Oregon complying with NCAA request

ob 101 - You wanted a response. I responded. Of course it is at the top of page ! so maybe you missed it. Not trying for any score on this one so go for it.



Since: Dec 29, 2006
Posted on: March 6, 2011 5:43 pm
 

Oregon complying with NCAA request

Ok I'll respond. You don't have to be a hater just because you point out some possible problems. And you yourself may be the real hater because you don't like what is being said. Oregon may be innocent of any wrong doing. Or maybe not. Never-the-less, the amount of money paid out seems exceedingly large for the legitimate service. It seems to be more in line as a payment for delivering something other than data. Even if Oregon hired "A" to do X, but "A" did Y and Y is illegal, and Oregon profitted by "A's" illegal activity, and probably should have known better, Oregon is guilty. It is akin to receiving stolen property. You didn't steal it but paid for it. We shall see what happens. I'm not saying you, but Duck types were all over USC for the Reggie Bush fiasco. Something Reggie did, but USC got hosed. Maybe you will slide like a notable team from the south has done thus far. Maybe you will get not much more than a notable team from the midwest got. Or maybe you will get hammered like another conference team was hammered. Just don't stick your head in the sand as if there is zero problem here.


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