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Thanks TCU: Mountain West BCS bid may not be dead

Posted on: November 29, 2010 4:53 pm
 
Posted by Jerry Hinnen

The idea of an athletics program from deep in the football-obsessed heart of Texas playing in a basketball-driven conference centered in the Northeast megalopolis seems weird enough. But what might be even weirder about TCU 's move to the Big East is that their current undefeated season will help both their new league hold onto their BCS automatic bid ... and their former conference home in the Mountain West in their effort to do the same. The New York Times ' Pete Thamel explains :
The Big East is locked into the B.C.S. through the 2013 season, as it is included in the television and bowl contracts. The automatic qualification criteria for the B.C.S. after 2014 have not been determined. If the Big East were subject to a review of its part performance, T.C.U.’s 2010 season would count for the Big East in that review.

Here is where things get bizarre. T.C.U.’s 2010 regular season will also go toward the Mountain West’s bid toward gaining automatic qualification status for the 2012 and 2013 seasons, which will be evaluated in December 2011 ...

The cycles overlap because the conferences created a new evaluation period to coincide with the television contract. To do that, they overlap for two years, according to the B.C.S. executive director, Bill Hancock.
With the Horned Frogs safely in the fold, barring a total collapse on their part and a total failure on the part of the rest of the league to improve on their dreadful 2010 (remember that Cincinnati went undefeated as recently as last season) it seems unlikely the Big East will be in any real danger of losing their automatic bid.

The bigger question is what happens with the Mountain West, who has been derided in many corners today as a glorified WAC 2.0 after gaining Boise State , Nevada, Fresno State and Hawaii but losing bellwethers Utah , TCU, and BYU . Thanks to the overlap in evaluation periods, however, the league appears to have a fighting chance at getting their long-awaited auto-bid after all. The combination of TCU's (as well as Utah's) excellent 2010 seasons combined with Boise's three-year 36-2 run back to 2008 (which Thamel explains will also count in the MWC's calculations) should give them a solid foundation. The new-look MWC middle class of rapidly-improving San Diego State , Air Force , and the three other WAC refugees will, at the least, be a substantial upgrade on the middle class of the old WAC and maybe even the current MWC if the Aztecs, Wolf Pack, and Warriors can build on their current success.

Will that be enough? It's probably still too early to say. But it's also too early to say, as many have in the wake of TCU's decision, that the MWC's dream of ascending to the ranks of the automatic qualifying conferences is dead just yet.

Comments

Since: Jul 29, 2008
Posted on: November 30, 2010 12:30 pm
 

Thanks TCU: Mountain West BCS bid may not be dead

Texas saved the Big XII by not bolting to the Big Ten or to another conference. You know just as well I that if Texas left, the conference would have collapsed due to other teams getting scooped up or some other similar scenario.



Since: Dec 3, 2007
Posted on: November 30, 2010 12:14 pm
 

Thanks TCU: Mountain West BCS bid may not be dead

Texas did not "save" the Big XII, ESPN did, and that was just a stay of execution. 



Since: Jul 29, 2008
Posted on: November 30, 2010 12:11 pm
 

Thanks TCU: Mountain West BCS bid may not be dead

Everybody already knows how crooked the Big 12 is.  It is the only conference who doesn't equally share their TV profits.  And not only that they have the worst TV contract of all the major conferences.  Texas will have their own TV Network in a couple of years.  Therefore, it would only make sense that the BIG 12 (-2) is on the Brink of Collapse.  Nobody wants to sit around and be Texas' B***Tch financially.

When this happens....Texas will be an independent, The SEC will go after Texas A&M again, and probably also Oklahoma.  and that will leave the other Big 12 teams stranded.  Even as a Texas Tech fan, I wouldn't mind so much if the MWC raided and picked up TTU, OK State, Kansas, Ks State, etc....so long as the MWC got a AQ BCS Bid.

We will see, but this is not a crazy prediction.  I still think we will be moving toward superconferences, etc.



Okay, let's not forget that Texas saved the Big 12, allowing schools like Texas Tech and Iowa State to still have a home. Yes, the contracts may be crooked and there is no equal share being distributed, but with the new financial agreement, all teams have received a pay raise - in some cases, double the revenues they received in years past. It makes sense though in some ways though, since Texas generates the most revenues within the conference, so they would take a larger piece of the pie.

I'm not saying your argument is wrong, but at the same time, the MWC is not going to raid the Big XII, since they cannot offer as much money to schools like TTU, ISU, Mizzou, etc... We will all be Texas's and Oklahoma's b****es, but in the end, the lesser-tiered schools in the Big 12 still remain in a major conference and not homeless schools who get picked up by weaker conferences.




Since: Jul 24, 2008
Posted on: November 30, 2010 8:56 am
 

MWC should raid the BIG 12

Everybody already knows how crooked the Big 12 is.  It is the only conference who doesn't equally share their TV profits.  And not only that they have the worst TV contract of all the major conferences.  Texas will have their own TV Network in a couple of years.  Therefore, it would only make sense that the BIG 12 (-2) is on the Brink of Collapse.  Nobody wants to sit around and be Texas' B***Tch financially.

When this happens....Texas will be an independent, The SEC will go after Texas A&M again, and probably also Oklahoma.  and that will leave the other Big 12 teams stranded.  Even as a Texas Tech fan, I wouldn't mind so much if the MWC raided and picked up TTU, OK State, Kansas, Ks State, etc....so long as the MWC got a AQ BCS Bid.

We will see, but this is not a crazy prediction.  I still think we will be moving toward superconferences, etc.




Since: Nov 4, 2010
Posted on: November 30, 2010 3:53 am
 

Thanks TCU: Mountain West BCS bid may not be dead

"The combination of TCU's (as well as Utah's) excellent 2010 seasons combined with Boise's three-year 36-2 run back to 2008 (which Thamel explains will also count in the MWC's calculations) should give them a solid foundation."

NOT true. 100% of Utah's accomplishments, including the 2009 Sugar Bowl win over Alabama, will count towards the PAC during this evaluation period. Utah's awesomeness will do nothing whatsoever to help the MWC this evaluation period. All of TCU's accomplishments, however, will count. All of Boise's accomplishments will also count. The illegal cartel will fuck the MWC over and TCU will leave. By the time Boise is able to bring a proper lawsuit forward nobody will give a damn as they will be essentially alone. Too bad, so sad, who cares.



Since: Sep 18, 2006
Posted on: November 29, 2010 7:40 pm
 

Thanks TCU: Mountain West BCS bid may not be dead

Hawaii has not been officially invited to the MWC yet but negotiations are in progress to add them as a football only school.  I would expect an official annoucment in January.





Since: Jan 14, 2009
Posted on: November 29, 2010 5:57 pm
 

Thanks TCU: Mountain West BCS bid may not be dead

When did the Mountain Worst get Hawaii??? I was only gone Saturday morning to Sunday evening this weekend and I didn't think I missed anything big like that??? 


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